| When
we called Charles Martin for this interview
he was working on his ‘fort’,
an enormous backyard structure consisting
of two towers linked by a bridge. He
explained that something like 27 kids
live in their neighborhood, and the
fort is part of his plan to make the
Martin house the gathering place for
his three sons and their friends. Charles
took a break from constructing this
medieval masterpiece to answer some
questions.
WOF: BookPage
described you as “An author of
‘God-haunted southern literature’.”
What does that mean?
MARTIN:
There was a guy who had written a review
for them who compared me to Faulkner
and (John) Grisham. One of the great
attributes of Southern fiction is the
way writers infuse God in their writing.
It’s hard to take Him out of the
fabric of their text. Go back to Faulkner,
Flannery O’Conner and Walker Percy
and you’ll see what I mean. I
think Grisham’s Testament
is one of best Christian fiction
novels ever written. I love that phrase
and I’m grateful somebody said
it about my work.
WOF: Both Wrapped
in Rain and your earlier book,
The Dead Don’t Dance,
are written from the perspective of
people with “damaged” loved
ones. Is that a particular area of interest
for you?
MARTIN: For
some reason I gravitate toward characters
who start out in angst or despair. Somebody
has an issue and it’s something
that cannot be fixed with aspirin or
a bandaid. It’s a cancer, something
serious. One thing I love doing is meeting
these character and figuring them out
– finding them in a place where
despair hangs over them like a cloud
and taking them to place where they’re
beyond it. I hate to use the terms ‘healed’
or ‘redeemed’ because life
doesn’t always work that way.
I want to take them through a process
from despair up to a place where there’s
hope. I’m hoping it takes the
reader to a place where they end up
with hope. The job of a novelist is
to take what has been said a thousand
times before and until it’s been
worn out, and say it in a way they’ve
never heard it before.
How does the audience
receive it? Do they want it? I don’t
write what they want, I write what’s
in my head, but I try to write what
can be received in a way that’s
different and new and fresh. If someone
takes the time to read my story, I don’t
want to leave them with just a twist
in the plot. I want to leave them with
something that shakes up their insides,
grabs hold of their heart and shakes
stuff off it – the junk we harden
it with. I want my books to get through
some stuff and leave them hopeful.
WOF: Some scenes
in the book — especially those
showing Rex’s treatment of those
around him — could be painful
for some of our readers to read.
Were those scenes difficult to write?
MARTIN: Yes.
Flannery O’Connor said, “For
the near blind you have to use awfully
large characters.” That was her
response to criticism about violence
in her stories. My question was, does
it mirror true life? Is it true? Could
it happen? The reality is that this
stuff happens every day.
I took story from friend
who told me about his dad. I fictionalized
it, but I started there. If you’re
gonna understand what Miss Ella did,
you gotta know how much it hurt for
her to stay there. Rex is evil —
flat out bad. I want you to go from
the place of hating him to place where
Tucker is at the end of the book where
he brings his dad to the wedding.
The twist is, how does
Tucker reconcile with his dad when his
dad can’t talk with him? He has
to wrestle with his demons way down
deep, and we needed to know how they
got there, what caused them, and that
they were real.
WOF: There’s
a scene in the book where the waitress
at Clark’s Fish Camp goes off
on Southern food in general and ‘swate’
tea in particular. Is this based on
an actual event or did you just seize
the opportunity to expound a philosophy
of Southern cuisine?
MARTIN: Clark’s
is a real place and they do have great
food. And their tea is really sweet.
I think that scene came from glimpse
I saw of lady giving tea back in a restaurant.
I remember the look on her face as one
of distaste. But it’s like Dixie
would say, if you’re not from
the South, you just don’t get
it.
WOF: You cover
a lot of territory in Wrapped in
Rain . . . mental illness, baseball,
alcoholism, photography, horse breeding.
Did you draw a lot from real-life experience
or did you do a ton of research? (Or
both?)
MARTIN:
All the above. I’m a closet photographer.
I’m not any good but I can talk
about it like I know what I’m
talking about it. One of my best friends
started suffering from mental illness
probably 16 years ago. We met 18 years
ago, so I met him when he was ‘normal’.
Then he began showing signs of something
I didn’t understand. He was misdiagnosed
four times, but I got him to some great
doctors. I’ve seen him slide off
the slippery slope of something I hate
with a strong hatred because of what
it’s done to my friend. I think
until we get to heaven he’ll just
be who he is now, and I miss who he
was. I look forward to getting my friend
back in heaven. He’s very different
from Mutt, but many of Mutt’s
eccentricities I was able to draw from
Hank’s obsessions and compulsions.
Hank’s doctor has become a dear
friend; he’s written several books
about mental illness. Mutt’s doctor
is a bit of a clone of him. We met once
a week while I was writing the book
and he helped me script where the illness
would start, how it would digress, and
where it would end up. I’m proud
that it’s true to life. Mutt isn’t
fixed at the end, but you have hope.
WOF: What’s
the significance of the ice cream truck?
MARTIN: I
don’t know. I really don’t.
That’s what’s neat about
the process of following characters
and figuring out what they intersect
with. I was working on the story —
I think Mutt was pressurewashing the
house — when I heard an ice cream
truck in my head. And I thought, well,
we’ll see where that goes. I needed
comic relief because the book is so
heavy. You need something to laugh about
now and then or you’ll give up
and stop reading.
WOF: Is Waverly
Hall based on a real location?
MARTIN:
The place in the book is creation of
my imagination. I spent a lot of time
thinking about it and painting a picture
of it in my head. I sat down with Christy
(my wife), who is a designer, and we
worked out what it would look like in
that era with a gothic style . . . what
a house done by Rex would look like.
We figured out what the moldings were
like and everything so that when I wrote
about it, I would have it in my head.
My grandparent’s home was called
Waverly Hall, but nothing is the same
except I borrowed the name.
WOF: What’s
your writing process? Do you start with
characters or plot?
MARTIN: My
work is very much character-driven;
it needs to be more plot-driven, but
it’s not. That’s something
to work on. That has to do with me and
my reason for writing; I’m not
interested in the next thriller, I’m
interested in getting people from one
place to another. I introduce someone
with a problem, hopefully get you to
care about them, and take you on a journey
with them.
C.S. Lewis said he got
the idea for the Chronicles of Narnia
in a flash, seeing a faun with
an umbrella walking through a snowy
forest. For Wrapped I got a
flash of a picture of neat, motherly
black woman who was not necessarily
attractive but just a neat bosom of
a woman, holding a scared boy wearing
footed pajamas in her lap in front of
fireplace, and he was talking about
a stomachache. Then I saw a man holding
a shotgun in mouth of his father. So
I began the process of figuring out
how that boy became that man.
WOF: What do you
do when you’re not writing?
MARTIN:
Since last January I’ve written
five books; mostly for the last 20 months
writing has been my day job and my night
job. I coach T-ball and I’m assistant
coach on another team (Editor’s
Note: the Martins have 3 boys); I try
to help Christie, but I fall down there.
I love to fish but I haven’t done
much of it lately. I don’t play
golf because that’s six hours
on Saturday that I’m not spending
time with my kids.
WOF: Do you have
a favorite reading spot?
MARTIN:
Hmmm. No, and I need one. I do have
two offices. I have a desk for the business
end of writing and I have a desk where
I write. I try to keep them separate.
It was one of the best pieces of advice
I got: Try to keep the business end
from leading in to creative end. Set
up one place where you work business
and one where you create.
WOF: Should we
look for you in the Hallmark Hall of
Fame production of The Dead Don’t
Dance?
MARTIN: No.
Selling movie rights is like selling
a car. Once you sign over the rights,
they can do whatever they want with
it. I’m hopeful they’ll
create a great story. People ask me,
“Are you worried about it?”
No, I’m not. If people really
want to know the story they’ll
read the book. I did hear that they’ve
got a great screenwriter, Kristine Johnson,
who wrote “I Am Sam”, to
do the script.
For more information
on Charles Martin and his books, and
updates on the upcoming Hallmark Hall
of Fame production, visit www.charlesmartinbooks.com. |